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	<title>நடராஜ முதலியார் &#8211; திரையுலக வரலாறு 2 குறித்த மறுமொழிகள்</title>
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	<description>(Sun TV's) 75 Years of Tamil Cinema - A Celebration</description>
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		<title>nakeeran இவரால் </title>
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		<dc:creator>nakeeran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 23:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line his no body should copy whether
or not they charge for it.

We can take certain work as inspiration, but
there should be sincere effort on our part as well.

Kammba Ramayanam is a product inspired by Valmiki Ramayanam.

Kambar&#039;s own stamp of creativity apart from
the herculean effort of translating the sanskrit work is just one example of that
kind.


If we cannot do this for some reason, it is
good to atleast not criticize others.

But as I always said, I just had fun.
Whatever you want to do , please do it.
Please,Don&#039;t get discouraged by what I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line his no body should copy whether<br />
or not they charge for it.</p>
<p>We can take certain work as inspiration, but<br />
there should be sincere effort on our part as well.</p>
<p>Kammba Ramayanam is a product inspired by Valmiki Ramayanam.</p>
<p>Kambar&#8217;s own stamp of creativity apart from<br />
the herculean effort of translating the sanskrit work is just one example of that<br />
kind.</p>
<p>If we cannot do this for some reason, it is<br />
good to atleast not criticize others.</p>
<p>But as I always said, I just had fun.<br />
Whatever you want to do , please do it.<br />
Please,Don&#8217;t get discouraged by what I say.</p>
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		<title>nakeeran இவரால் </title>
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		<dc:creator>nakeeran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 22:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//
My point is not about his rights to charge for it, but the fact that our motivation is different from that of Shankar.
//
His motivation is to Take all kinds of risk,work,partly copy, entertain and make money.

But we criticize him for copying and we are saying we have the right to criticize him for copying.

Your motivation is to Rewrite history and entertain.
But then according to you, there is no problem of copying because you don&#039;t charge.

But  he charges because he takes huge risk with huge investment, takes massive effort.

You don&#039;t do any of them and that is why you
don&#039;t charge.

This &quot;Not charging&quot; does not give you  &quot;right to copy&quot; that too when we openly  criticize them for copying.
 
//
The fact that they can be found out doesn’t justify the non-acknowledgement of the sources.
//
Again I agree with you on this.
This is probably our Cinema culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//<br />
My point is not about his rights to charge for it, but the fact that our motivation is different from that of Shankar.<br />
//<br />
His motivation is to Take all kinds of risk,work,partly copy, entertain and make money.</p>
<p>But we criticize him for copying and we are saying we have the right to criticize him for copying.</p>
<p>Your motivation is to Rewrite history and entertain.<br />
But then according to you, there is no problem of copying because you don&#8217;t charge.</p>
<p>But  he charges because he takes huge risk with huge investment, takes massive effort.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t do any of them and that is why you<br />
don&#8217;t charge.</p>
<p>This &#8220;Not charging&#8221; does not give you  &#8220;right to copy&#8221; that too when we openly  criticize them for copying.</p>
<p>//<br />
The fact that they can be found out doesn’t justify the non-acknowledgement of the sources.<br />
//<br />
Again I agree with you on this.<br />
This is probably our Cinema culture.</p>
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		<title>RV இவரால் </title>
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		<dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t phrase that well - I meant to say that you are not being offensive at all, so don&#039;t worry about it...

Shankar has the perfect work to charge for anything he wants. It is upto the public to pay for it or not. My point is not about his rights to charge for it, but the fact that our motivation is different from that of Shankar.

The fact that they can be found out doesn&#039;t justify the non-acknowledgement of the sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t phrase that well &#8211; I meant to say that you are not being offensive at all, so don&#8217;t worry about it&#8230;</p>
<p>Shankar has the perfect work to charge for anything he wants. It is upto the public to pay for it or not. My point is not about his rights to charge for it, but the fact that our motivation is different from that of Shankar.</p>
<p>The fact that they can be found out doesn&#8217;t justify the non-acknowledgement of the sources.</p>
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		<title>nakeeran இவரால் </title>
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		<dc:creator>nakeeran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 10:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//
Nakkeeran, we all understand the spirit in which you are arguing, so don’t worry about being offensive.
//

Nanri. Am I offensive ? If so very sorry for that.


//
Shankar may not have a perfect system to get the money out of MP3 downloads
//

Ahaa!!
It is not Shankar&#039;s problem.
He provided us facility to buy authentic mp3
songs and buy authentic DVDs.

We are happy to bypass it.

//
I don’t think there is any doubt about his motivation 
//
His motivation his to make money by entertaining us.
In that process he takes huge risk ,ivest lots of money(S films), works hard,spends heaps of time blah blah.

He also picks up some impressive idea from wester movies ,recreates them with lots of
effort and mixes them with his original
idea.  

Why should he not charge moneey for his work?

//
It is very rare that remake copying in Tamil film industry to acknowledge its sources. If they do, it would make it much more palatable
//

Agreed. Most often they are found out.
In this internet age they cannot keep it
secret.Can they ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//<br />
Nakkeeran, we all understand the spirit in which you are arguing, so don’t worry about being offensive.<br />
//</p>
<p>Nanri. Am I offensive ? If so very sorry for that.</p>
<p>//<br />
Shankar may not have a perfect system to get the money out of MP3 downloads<br />
//</p>
<p>Ahaa!!<br />
It is not Shankar&#8217;s problem.<br />
He provided us facility to buy authentic mp3<br />
songs and buy authentic DVDs.</p>
<p>We are happy to bypass it.</p>
<p>//<br />
I don’t think there is any doubt about his motivation<br />
//<br />
His motivation his to make money by entertaining us.<br />
In that process he takes huge risk ,ivest lots of money(S films), works hard,spends heaps of time blah blah.</p>
<p>He also picks up some impressive idea from wester movies ,recreates them with lots of<br />
effort and mixes them with his original<br />
idea.  </p>
<p>Why should he not charge moneey for his work?</p>
<p>//<br />
It is very rare that remake copying in Tamil film industry to acknowledge its sources. If they do, it would make it much more palatable<br />
//</p>
<p>Agreed. Most often they are found out.<br />
In this internet age they cannot keep it<br />
secret.Can they ?</p>
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		<title>RV இவரால் </title>
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		<dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nakkeeran, we all understand the spirit in which you are arguing, so don&#039;t worry about being offensive.

Shankar may not have a perfect system to get the money out of MP3 downloads, but I don&#039;t think there is any doubt about his motivation - and ours. It is very rare that remake copying in Tamil film industry to acknowledge its sources. If they do, it would make it much more palatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nakkeeran, we all understand the spirit in which you are arguing, so don&#8217;t worry about being offensive.</p>
<p>Shankar may not have a perfect system to get the money out of MP3 downloads, but I don&#8217;t think there is any doubt about his motivation &#8211; and ours. It is very rare that remake copying in Tamil film industry to acknowledge its sources. If they do, it would make it much more palatable.</p>
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		<title>nakeeran இவரால் </title>
		<link>http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/%e0%ae%a8%e0%ae%9f%e0%ae%b0%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%9c-%e0%ae%ae%e0%af%81%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%b2%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%88%e0%ae%af%e0%af%81%e0%ae%b2/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>nakeeran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//
Also, Shankar expects us to pay him money. We definitely don’t have a money motive, but we wouldn’t say no to a coffee sometime!
//

So it is OK to copy,as long as one does
not charge for it ?!!! :-)

Indian songs or pretty much free (mp3 downloads).
The pirated DVD movies we see does not
help producers,directors anyway.
I mean Shankar does not get anything.

But still we are criticizing remix, remake
copying etc. (see the relevant blog)

Why ?
 
I just had fun.
Don&#039;t take it seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//<br />
Also, Shankar expects us to pay him money. We definitely don’t have a money motive, but we wouldn’t say no to a coffee sometime!<br />
//</p>
<p>So it is OK to copy,as long as one does<br />
not charge for it ?!!! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Indian songs or pretty much free (mp3 downloads).<br />
The pirated DVD movies we see does not<br />
help producers,directors anyway.<br />
I mean Shankar does not get anything.</p>
<p>But still we are criticizing remix, remake<br />
copying etc. (see the relevant blog)</p>
<p>Why ?</p>
<p>I just had fun.<br />
Don&#8217;t take it seriously.</p>
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		<title>RV இவரால் </title>
		<link>http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/%e0%ae%a8%e0%ae%9f%e0%ae%b0%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%9c-%e0%ae%ae%e0%af%81%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%b2%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%88%e0%ae%af%e0%af%81%e0%ae%b2/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>RV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nakeeran,

Thanks for the nice feedback. Bags &amp; I appreciate it!

I agree with Bags, though. While a blog can be seen as forum to express the author&#039;s opinion, I personally view this blog as a place where Tamil movies can be discussed. For me the feedback is a very important piece. When we cut and paste or &quot;rewrite&quot; history, we are hoping to hear from you guys. Cut/paste is usually from protected sites which make is harder for netizens to access them...

Also, Shankar expects us to pay him money. We definitely don&#039;t have a money motive, but we wouldn&#039;t say no to a coffee sometime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nakeeran,</p>
<p>Thanks for the nice feedback. Bags &amp; I appreciate it!</p>
<p>I agree with Bags, though. While a blog can be seen as forum to express the author&#8217;s opinion, I personally view this blog as a place where Tamil movies can be discussed. For me the feedback is a very important piece. When we cut and paste or &#8220;rewrite&#8221; history, we are hoping to hear from you guys. Cut/paste is usually from protected sites which make is harder for netizens to access them&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, Shankar expects us to pay him money. We definitely don&#8217;t have a money motive, but we wouldn&#8217;t say no to a coffee sometime!</p>
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		<title>nakeeran இவரால் </title>
		<link>http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/%e0%ae%a8%e0%ae%9f%e0%ae%b0%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%9c-%e0%ae%ae%e0%af%81%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%b2%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%88%e0%ae%af%e0%af%81%e0%ae%b2/#comment-675</link>
		<dc:creator>nakeeran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry about blog protocols.
You have all the freedom to do whatever you want.
But then if I copy somedody&#039;s blog and pasted in my blog  my effort is zero
(apart from finding that stuff)

If I identify and analyse an issue or experience something and express it in own words or imagine and express the imagination,do research about some thing and express it in various forms and ways
then my effort is 100%.

Various degrees of copying reduces this 100%
effort to various levels.
Generally the amount of thinking one does is largely reduced to varying levels depending on nature of copying.

Rewriting history is we get all the stuff
for free and just express it in different
tones.

Even if you get history for free without doing research, if you add ,your analysis,
conjectures, surprises,shocks etc then may be you raise the reduce the degree of copy.

For example Madan wrote wonderful history piece in &quot;Vandhaargal Venraargal&quot;.


Forget about everything.
We criticize Shankar..., music directors for
copying.

IF they ask us, &quot;when you cannot even do blogs with original thoughts then why are you criticizing us when we operate under so many contraints?&quot; 
what answer can we give them ?

The issue I raised is purely based on this.

Don&#039;t worry. You are free to write anything
without any hesitation.
There is no protocol for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry about blog protocols.<br />
You have all the freedom to do whatever you want.<br />
But then if I copy somedody&#8217;s blog and pasted in my blog  my effort is zero<br />
(apart from finding that stuff)</p>
<p>If I identify and analyse an issue or experience something and express it in own words or imagine and express the imagination,do research about some thing and express it in various forms and ways<br />
then my effort is 100%.</p>
<p>Various degrees of copying reduces this 100%<br />
effort to various levels.<br />
Generally the amount of thinking one does is largely reduced to varying levels depending on nature of copying.</p>
<p>Rewriting history is we get all the stuff<br />
for free and just express it in different<br />
tones.</p>
<p>Even if you get history for free without doing research, if you add ,your analysis,<br />
conjectures, surprises,shocks etc then may be you raise the reduce the degree of copy.</p>
<p>For example Madan wrote wonderful history piece in &#8220;Vandhaargal Venraargal&#8221;.</p>
<p>Forget about everything.<br />
We criticize Shankar&#8230;, music directors for<br />
copying.</p>
<p>IF they ask us, &#8220;when you cannot even do blogs with original thoughts then why are you criticizing us when we operate under so many contraints?&#8221;<br />
what answer can we give them ?</p>
<p>The issue I raised is purely based on this.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry. You are free to write anything<br />
without any hesitation.<br />
There is no protocol for this.</p>
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		<title>Bags இவரால் </title>
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		<dc:creator>Bags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>மணிவண்ணன்,

நன்றி. உங்கள் விரைவான தகவலுக்கு.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>மணிவண்ணன்,</p>
<p>நன்றி. உங்கள் விரைவான தகவலுக்கு.</p>
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		<title>Bags இவரால் </title>
		<link>http://awardakodukkaranga.wordpress.com/2008/11/19/%e0%ae%a8%e0%ae%9f%e0%ae%b0%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%9c-%e0%ae%ae%e0%af%81%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%b2%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%af%e0%ae%be%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%8d-%e0%ae%a4%e0%ae%bf%e0%ae%b0%e0%af%88%e0%ae%af%e0%af%81%e0%ae%b2/#comment-668</link>
		<dc:creator>Bags</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nakeeran,
I respect your stand that you couldn&#039;t buy my argument. But family constraints, lack of time, etc. are my clear and present difficulties for me.

I am not sure about the grammar for writing blogs. &quot;Writing blogs&quot; is an accident to me. All I know is that I have the liberty to make spelling &amp; grammatical mistakes, mix languages, don&#039;t have to follow language rules very strictly, etc. The way I understand is this: Blog is to professional journalism  as &quot;C U l8ter&quot; is to &quot;See you, later&quot;. 
Well. Having said that, I know that I need lot of improvement in my writing skills to hold readers like Nakeeran back to my writings :-) The more I see these kinds of feedback, the more I have to stop and think before writing (or &quot;reusing&quot;) 

Plagiarism is different from &quot;reusing&quot; ideas. But with history, no matter how different you say it still looks the same. After all how many ways could we manage to say &quot;Asoka won Kalinga war&quot; or &quot;Hitler&#039;s created concentration camps for decimating Jews&quot;? Whichever way we say it could result as the same material. My point is if we expect change in contents in these themes, we will end up disappointed. I guess you are asking me to change the theme itself. Again my first point (my clear and present difficulties) comes into effect.

But hope that situation will improve and I get better stuff to tell you. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nakeeran,<br />
I respect your stand that you couldn&#8217;t buy my argument. But family constraints, lack of time, etc. are my clear and present difficulties for me.</p>
<p>I am not sure about the grammar for writing blogs. &#8220;Writing blogs&#8221; is an accident to me. All I know is that I have the liberty to make spelling &amp; grammatical mistakes, mix languages, don&#8217;t have to follow language rules very strictly, etc. The way I understand is this: Blog is to professional journalism  as &#8220;C U l8ter&#8221; is to &#8220;See you, later&#8221;.<br />
Well. Having said that, I know that I need lot of improvement in my writing skills to hold readers like Nakeeran back to my writings <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  The more I see these kinds of feedback, the more I have to stop and think before writing (or &#8220;reusing&#8221;) </p>
<p>Plagiarism is different from &#8220;reusing&#8221; ideas. But with history, no matter how different you say it still looks the same. After all how many ways could we manage to say &#8220;Asoka won Kalinga war&#8221; or &#8220;Hitler&#8217;s created concentration camps for decimating Jews&#8221;? Whichever way we say it could result as the same material. My point is if we expect change in contents in these themes, we will end up disappointed. I guess you are asking me to change the theme itself. Again my first point (my clear and present difficulties) comes into effect.</p>
<p>But hope that situation will improve and I get better stuff to tell you. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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